Rulemaking - Clean Vehicles Program and General Regulations for Air Pollution Sources

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Comment From: Robert Cleveland

10/10/22 @ 8:25 AM
These new rules dont make sense. There is more pollution in the mining process to obtain raw materials to build a battery than driving gas cars. This makes us more dependent on China for our materials.
Just think if you had a ev car in Florida how d...↓
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Comment From: Maynard Jeffers

10/10/22 @ 8:16 AM
Please stop this push on electrical vehicles, at this time, the technology is not there to make them affordable to to average person. As of now only the rich can afford them
Thx
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Comment From: CLB Safety Compliance, LLC (Curt Burhenn)

10/10/22 @ 8:12 AM
The EV mandate and gasoline engine ban are unrealistic and unfair. It will cost billions to
implement and will unfairly penalize rural communities and working families. Car makers have stated that the production goals to meet these mandates cannot be ...↓
EV production is NOT clean nor pollution free as the public is being told and will not stop climate change. Hydroelectric dams are being breached and wind power production in unreliable and pollutes in ways not being told. It is very clear that the US is nowhere close to having the infrastructure to handle such a drastic change. Where will this electricity come from? The power grid we have fails in some areas of the US under the current load just to provide for homes and businesses, let alone a forced influx of EVs adding to the equation.
Please stop this foolishness.
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Comment From: Bob Westphal

10/10/22 @ 7:45 AM
This bill is rediculous and makes no sense!! Enviormentalists need to do a large amount of research to understand that this bill will cause much more damage than good.
There is no such thing as a zero emisions vehicle. The question is where are the em...↓
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Comment From: Charles Smith

10/10/22 @ 7:42 AM
The EV mandate and gasoline engine ban are unrealistic and unfair. It will cost billions to implement and will unfairly penalize rural communities and working families. The CEO of Toyota has publicly stated that the production goals to meet Californ...↓
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Comment From: gregory rust

10/10/22 @ 7:20 AM
This is a horrible piece of legislation/rulemaking! Let the market decide when EVs will be sold! This will do little to reduce climate change, and the additional electricity required could result in MORE pollution (since it seems likely that we wil...↓
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Comment From: Donald Frey

10/10/22 @ 7:15 AM
Gas engine and heavy duty vehicle ban, are unrealistic and unfair, will cost billions to implement, and will unfairly penalize rural communities, working families, and cause uncertainty for trucking operations in delivering critical goods and supplie...↓
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Comment From: Doug Kobilan

10/10/22 @ 7:03 AM
Electric vehicles are harder on the environment than gas powered vehicles. Mining the materials needed for batteries and battery disposal will cause more harm to the environment. Add to this the unreliability of electric cars, makes them a poor choic...↓
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Comment From: RONALD COLBY

10/10/22 @ 6:55 AM
The EV mandate and gas engine ban are unrealistic and unfair, will cost billions to implement and will unfairly penalize rural communities and working families.
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Comment From: Shirley McCullough

10/10/22 @ 6:50 AM
This mandate is not feasible in eastern Washington! We have the livelihoods of farmers and ranchers that first of all, cannot afford the cost of purchasing the vehicles and secondly will spend more time charging them than would be profitable. This i...↓
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Comment From: Dean Habowski

10/10/22 @ 6:31 AM
No, No, No, no good rules, regulation or laws come out of california! Can't you do better than to copycat stuff designed for a different climate than ours?
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Comment From: Jere Knudtsen

10/10/22 @ 6:27 AM
The EV mandate and gas engine ban are unrealistic and unfair, will cost billions to implement and will unfairly penalize rural communities and working families.
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Comment From: Bernadita Sanner

10/10/22 @ 5:29 AM
I oppose Chapter 173-423 WAC, Clean Vehicles Program. We are financially capable to pay for an enforced mandate. I have not seen any research to support this.
Then, our state and all states that follow this mandate will have to deal with the waste, r...↓
Might I suggest that one studies how to recycle gas emissions? Could the gas and water be recycled for extra power?
How about recycling the metal, plastic etc., from old cars?
How about plant based fuel other than corn?
Also, more jobs will be eliminated not to mention the training required for new vehicles, new charging stations.
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Comment From: William Geloneck

10/10/22 @ 5:25 AM
This is just another example of how the far-left want to impose their ideology on us "minions" while they do not practice what they preach. Q: Where is all the electricity going to come from to charge EVs? Until some new source (not solar, not win...↓
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Comment From: Dwane Gugeler

10/09/22 @ 11:28 PM
With the modest amount of electric cars we have now we barely have the electricity to meet existing consumer demand. CA is re-commissioning a nuclear plant to attempt to avoid blackouts. If you are concerned about the environment why promote vehicles...↓
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Comment From: Kerry and Elaine Annis

10/09/22 @ 11:24 PM
There is no alternative to gasoline powered vehicles as there is not enough electricity to power electric vehicles. And you want to tear down dams, making it worse. So where will the extra electricity come from? There are 3 choices: coal fueled plant...↓
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Comment From: Royal Waldock

10/09/22 @ 10:18 PM
How can we mandate a ban fossil fuel engines when the electrical power grid cannot support the additional
the demand required for charging batteries as California has shown and No one in government has addressed
the 60,000 people performing slave labor...↓
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Comment From: Karen Sturrock

10/09/22 @ 9:56 PM
You first. Buy an EV - without a subsidy. Try charging it through brown-outs or black-outs; a likely consequence of dam destruction, the demonization and closure of coal-fired plants, and the denial of nuclear as a viable option. Replace the battery-...↓

It is hubris to assume that technological advancements can be forced to evolve within an artificial timeline.

This imposition will only hurt Washingtonians. Do not do this.
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Comment From: Larry Jensen

10/09/22 @ 9:02 PM
Are you kidding...why would you want to make us more dependent on fewer choices of fuel. We need more choices not less. The best economy is one that has lots of competitive choices. Choices drive efficiencies and competition drives us to better produ...↓

Stop the censorship of choice .... it is just too much in too many places including in energy.
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Comment From: mae Vio

10/09/22 @ 8:53 PM
the EV mandate and gas engine ban are unrealistic and unfair, will cost billions to implement and will unfairly penalize rural communities and working families.
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Comment From: Michael Stanzel

10/09/22 @ 8:24 PM
I oppose this mandate to eliminate gas powered vehicles without any sort of alternate plan in place.

The electrical power grid is one of the most complicated pieces of engineering in the country. The California government is just starting to realize ...↓

This is a clip from an article I read just last week regarding the whole country.

"In August, California announced the end of fossil fuel-powered car sales by 2035, prompting green energy advocates to celebrate.

However, flex alerts followed the announcement just days later, asking Golden State residents to avoid charging their electric vehicles during peak hours. Lack of compliance with the measure meant widespread blackouts due to the additional strain on the electrical grid.

The ironic turn of events underscores a massive problem facing renewable energy as demands for green technologies continue taxing the antiquated U.S. power grid.

Even using nuclear energy as a crutch, the cost of the upgrades needed amounts to $4 trillion, according to a WoodMac estimate. Without nuclear power, that price tag increases by another half a trillion dollars."
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Comment From: Paul Magnussen

10/09/22 @ 7:46 PM
I am opposed to banning new internal combustion vehicles. This will only hurt low income people who can't afford electric vehicles. It also would eliminate hybrid vehicles which are a more practical solution since all electric vehicles are limited ...↓
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Comment From: Susan Bond

10/09/22 @ 7:37 PM
I respectfully ask you to consider the ramifications of your proposal. We do not have the proper infrastructure, ie fueling capabilities, supplies of batteries, etc.to support this proposal. The average person cannot afford to purchase such a vehicle...↓

Thank you,
Susan Bond
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Comment From: Ken Johnson

10/09/22 @ 7:19 PM
The EV mandate and gas engine ban are unrealistic and unfair, will cost billions to implement and will unfairly penalize rural communities and working families.
This is complete insanity when looking at the facts about our electrical grid. We do not h...↓
Look at the facts and DO NOT IMPLEMENT THIS INSANE RULE!
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Comment From: Ms C Anonymous

10/09/22 @ 7:13 PM
The electric vehicles (EV) mandate and gas engine ban are unrealistic and unfair.

-EVs are too expensive for most families with an average cost of $66,000.
-EVs are not practical for long distance road trips.
-The EV infrastructure is not yet in place a...↓
-Production of batteries for EVs requires about the same amount of fossil fuels as gas-powered vehicles and does not support your green policies.
-Rural communities and working families are unfairly penalized.

Washington residents should be able to choose the vehicle that works best for them.
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Comment From: TERRY MCMILLAN

10/09/22 @ 6:59 PM
You guys must think we are all rich. Do you really believe EVs are better for the environment? Do
you know anything about lithium which mainly comes from China? What about disposal of lithium
batteries? Rich people will not be in a bind because of your...↓
hurt poor and lower middle class people. You probably don't actually care about that. Do you know
those fancy bird killing windmills are made in China? How about the solar panels, do you know
where those are made? China. What about disposal? All the while you are talking about tearing
down the dams. Where will all this electricity come from? And lets not forget also that you'all
gifted our advanced battery technology to the communist Chinese after it was developed here in
Washington using our American tax dollars
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Comment From: Gary Smith

10/09/22 @ 6:45 PM
Please allow the citizens of WA to make their own decision on whether they prefer to own a gas powered, hybrid or all electric motor vehicle. We did not give the legislature a mandate to usurp our freedoms as Americans. Their is no "sciemce" that g...↓
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Comment From: Daniel MacGugan

10/09/22 @ 6:44 PM
King Ensley is a lunatic. He's just another money grabber. Says he cares about people but he and Bob Ferguson are just running a legal scam.
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Comment From: Michele Almeida

10/09/22 @ 6:13 PM
We drive old, gas vehicles because we cannot afford new vehicles - of any kind- let alone ultra expensive electric vehicles with expensive repair costs. Truly think about what you are proposing here. Try putting yourselves in the shoes of the major...↓
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Comment From: Daniel MacGugan

10/09/22 @ 5:45 PM
A ridiculous and extremely expensive idea.
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Comment From: Rob Johansen

10/09/22 @ 5:31 PM
This is unrealistic, the electrical grid can not with stand the load that will be placed on it. Plus it will cost billions and take years to implement the charging grid & we will be dependent on foreign countries for the rare minerals needed for batt...↓
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Comment From: Anonymous Nelson

10/09/22 @ 4:55 PM
You guys must think we are all rich. Do you really believe EVs are better for the environment? Do you know anything about lithium which mainly comes from China? What about disposal of lithium batteries? Rich people will not be in a bind because o...↓
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Comment From: Nathan Yuhl

10/09/22 @ 4:55 PM
We are approaching 80 years old and purchased our last car several years ago. We will need access to reasonably priced fuel for a number of more years. Also, reasonably priced heating oil. Going "green" will do nothing for the environment. Please let...↓
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Comment From: Joe Balint

10/09/22 @ 4:38 PM
The new ZEV rule would mean that Washington state will become one of the first states to adopt California's ban on the sale of new gas-powered vehicles by 2035 to be implemented in phases. Starting in 2026, in just three years, 35% of new passenger ...↓

EVs are still too costly and don't work for most families. Washington residents should be able to choose the vehicle that works best for them.
The average EV costs $66,000.1 This mandate will cost consumers and businesses BILLIONS.
Creating the charging infrastructure to support this mandate will be expensive and could take years.
The cost of electric grid upgrades needed for new EV charging loads, are unknown and could be in the BILLIONS.

Gas/electric hybrid vehicles makes sense, contribute to reduced pollution, and such be promoted as a first step in any transition.
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Comment From: Tony Tamaccio

10/09/22 @ 4:35 PM
The average EV costs $66,000.1 This mandate will cost consumers and businesses BILLIONS.
Creating the charging infrastructure to support this mandate will be expensive and could take years.
The cost of electric grid upgrades needed for new EV charging ...↓

EVERYTHING concerning "climate change" is a complete fraud. The only ones who will benefit from these illegal and unconstitutional mandates are the insiders in government and the private sector that created these phony crises.
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Comment From: Teresa Rasmussen

10/09/22 @ 4:30 PM
Drill Baby Drill! Stop being dependent on other countries!
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Comment From: Carole McMurry

10/09/22 @ 4:27 PM
I come against ZEV's, I hate having the government make rules that are impossible for its citizens to live with.
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Comment From: Shawn Jay Creasey

10/09/22 @ 4:20 PM
We should be able to put this to a vote of the people , our state is not listening to its voters on most all issues.
We should have the freedom to choose what we want not forced. Our nation is becoming more of a country ran by force than choice.
Shawn ...↓
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Comment From: James Kwasny

10/09/22 @ 4:08 PM
comments on Rulemaking - Clean Vehicles Program and General Regulations for Air Pollution Sources

I concur with the comments against Chapter 173-423 WAC, Clean Vehicles Program. We are expanding the adoption of California motor vehicle emission standa...↓
Chapter 173-400 WAC, General Regulations for Air Pollution Sources. We are updating the adoption date of federal rules and making associated changes in five sections, including retaining the current definition of "project emissions accounting" in the Prevention of Significant Deterioration Program...

Jim Kwasny
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Comment From: Shane Robley

10/09/22 @ 4:06 PM
The EV mandate and gas engine ban are unrealistic and unfair, will cost billions to implement and will unfairly penalize rural communities and working families.Infastructure currently can not support this and could cost millions to upgrade. True cost...↓
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Comment From: combined forestry & marine ser... (clark caffall)

10/09/22 @ 3:50 PM
I own and operate a small fleet of tugboats, workboats and various land based machinery. All equipment I own and operate requires petroleum based fuel, primarily diesel. My equipment is well maintained, albeit not new (1957-1996). The use of a synthe...↓
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Comment From: Anonymous Anonymous

10/09/22 @ 3:49 PM
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Comment on the proposed rules, Chapter 173-423 WAC – Clean Vehicles Program, and Chapter 173-400 WAC, General Regulations for Air Pollution Sources.

I believe these proposed rules are totally unrealistic,unfair, and short sighted. The push to ele...↓

I believe updating generating capacity, improving the grid, and further study of alternative energy sources is also in order, i.e., hydrogen power.

To eliminate ICE engines is very short sighted in and of itself. In the near term it seems that hybrid powered vehicles will accomplish very much what is desired in the environmental area without the unnecessary cost and confusion of total banning of the ICE.
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Comment From: L Bretz

10/09/22 @ 3:44 PM
The proposed requirements regarding zev is totally impractical, the costs involved are as under stated as light rail is. It borders on racism in that people of color are least likely to be able to afford the cost of them. Do not implement this polic...↓
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Comment From: Michael Smith

10/09/22 @ 3:40 PM
As a country have we lost our minds when government can take over and bankrupt companies and corporations. I believe it's unconstitutional. Those politicians can pick winners and losers with inside information getting rich with insider trading (Nancy...↓
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Comment From: Gerald Duggins

10/09/22 @ 3:36 PM
This is total garbage, and the Federal Government has ruled California's regulations to be illegal, electric vehicles have proven to be unreliable and a hazard to the environment not only from their manufacturing but also from their use of electricit...↓
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Comment From: Dianne Cowman

10/09/22 @ 3:27 PM
This legislation is far to early to be considered. Our infra structure is not even close to be ready to support a massive surge of ev cars and trucks plus said cars and trucks are still technologically not ready to replace petroleum fueled cars and t...↓
Think this thru before voting on it. The adverse consequences will destroy our economy.
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Comment From: John Hansen

10/09/22 @ 3:18 PM
Electric vehicles are not zero emission as they have been portrayed. They just change the location where the emission occurs. New technology, such as electric vehicles, should not be forced on the public by government fiat. There are many hurdles ...↓
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Comment From: Ted Irvin

10/09/22 @ 3:06 PM
Please stop these misguided policies. People should be able to choose what type of vehicle they need or want, not the government. Evs are too costly to produce, cause pollution when being made, have batteries that will need to be disposed of when dea...↓
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Comment From: Joyce Rae Mouser

10/09/22 @ 3:05 PM
Non gas powered cars would cripple our country and change life styles forever!
This governor's position is "follow California". BIG MISTAKE
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Comment From: Rich Anonymous

10/09/22 @ 3:01 PM
Our country doesn't have the infrastructure to support electric vehicles. And, just because you build the charging stations doesn't mean there will be the electricity to support the stations. After all, when you shut down the power plants(coal, nat...↓
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Comment From: Jina Avila

10/09/22 @ 2:49 PM
The mining of lithium is more harmful to the environment than fossil fuels by far! NO BAN ON GASOLINE POWERED VEHICLES!
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Comment From: Timothy Collins

10/09/22 @ 2:47 PM
The rules and laws that are being proposed by the state of Washington upon the citizens and businesses are going to place unreal and excessive costs upon us all. It is an unreal expectation to change our automobiles over to all electric . To place su...↓
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Comment From: Claudia Olson

10/09/22 @ 2:38 PM
Washington State and our entire United States is not ready to have total electric cars, trucks & boats. All delivery trucks can't go far enough on a charge. Our country is the cleanest in the world with our energy (natural gas, hydro power, coal & oi...↓
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Comment From: Joel Black

10/09/22 @ 2:32 PM
Clearly politicians are not scientists, and clearly politicians do not consult with scientists. I love EV's, and will be buying one soon, but it is BAD policy to require them--bad for economics, bad for poor people, bad for the environment, bad for n...↓
Manufacturing windmills, batteries, solar panels and EV's takes up to 80 times as much energy as making gasoline engines. That is 80 times the carbon footprint. The de-commissioning and disposal of these products also takes 12 times as much energy and carbon as it does to recycle a car through the junkyard and the metal smelters. Only during its life on the road is an EV's carbon output lower than a gasoline powered car, and only during its generating years is a windmill or a solar cell less polluting than a coal-fired power plant.
But the electricity itself to run the EV's has to come from somewhere, and only hydro and nuclear facilities have a lower carbon footprint than burning fossil fuels. Solar creates 3 times and wind creates 2 1/2 times the carbon footprint of burning fuels for electricity (across the entire process, as already explained.)
Therefore, requiring EV's, which already cost twice what gasoline vehicles cost, and have less luggage and towing capacity, also contributes to global climate problems, while squeezing the poor, the middle class, and every taxpayer. Every EV on the road will, by the end of its life, generate 2 1/2 times the carbon output of a gasoline powered car. To require EV's is bad policy. It is, in fact, tyranny--grinding the faces of the poor.
The carbon solution, of course, is to shift the manufacturing and the disposal to Asia. It builds their economy and pollutes their country. We escape the carbon. We also escape the economic development, and we avoid all the jobs which the poor depend upon to raise their standard of living, sending them to our fellowmen in other countries. How generous of us. Asia increases in power and influence while we shrink until we disappear.
Do whatever it takes to shut down this destructive idea. EV's for those who want them, yes. Required--no way.
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Comment From: Steven Franke

10/09/22 @ 2:31 PM
The EV mandate and gas engine ban are unrealistic and unfair, will cost billions to implement and will unfairly penalize rural communities and working families. Washington residents should be able to choose the vehicle that works best for them. The a...↓
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Comment From: David Howe

10/09/22 @ 2:28 PM
I am strongly OPPOSED to this rule proposal. It is totally impractical considering the high cost of electric vehicles and the lack of infrastructure for producing electric power. I would hope that the Department of Ecology would exercise some matur...↓
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Comment From: Kristina Miles

10/09/22 @ 2:28 PM
This policy will bring much harm to our state, while getting little good out of it. In particular, you will be harming low income and working class people. We can't afford those electric cars, and we need our cars to get to work, to get our food, to ...↓

Then there is the issue of the power grid. While we are blessed with hydroelectricity in this state, many of our dams are being shut down! This will lower the availability. And then add every household that can afford it or is forced into it (making life very hard on them) of adding their cars to charge every night, it will cause power problems through the state.

Then, lets talk pollution. The amount of pollution caused by making these batteries is insane. Not to mention the rare materials it takes to make them, which puts us even more at the whim of foreign governments. And the battery is most of the cost of the car, so when they go bad... as batteries do... it will cost a fortune to replace them. Or the cars will just end up at the junk yard, and the caustic batteries polluting there or some other disposal place.

While we all want clean air and water, harming everyone now, instead of waiting for the technology to catch up and make this more viable and affordable, is not the answer. And displacing the pollution doesn't make it go away. We need better solutions. And honestly, you do not have the right to tell people what kind of car they can drive. Government overreach at its worst.
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Comment From: Kristy Strom

10/09/22 @ 2:14 PM
The proposed rule changes are unclear so unsure of exact changes to be made; however, any 'universal' requirement forbidding gas consumption would be a hardship for most citizens & we are against it.
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Comment From: Philip Lehtinen

10/09/22 @ 2:11 PM
This mandate is totally dumb, even dumber is follow anything that California is doing. You politicians should think before you push us into this EV situation.Number one we don't have the infrastructure in place to handle the needed electricity to han...↓
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Comment From: Sydney Wissel

10/09/22 @ 2:05 PM
Air quality has continued to improve throughout the last century without the removal of gas-powered vehicles. Banning them outright or forcing sweeping change in the way they are allowed to function imposes insurmountable cost on those in our society...↓
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Comment From: Susan Streifel

10/09/22 @ 1:53 PM
I am emailing today in opposition of the new EV mandate and Gas Engine ban, based on the time line and current proposed implementation which will harm, Washington residents in the following ways,
1)Cost of EV are prohibitive for most families
2) The de...↓
3) Washington families should be free to choose the vehicle that works best for them and their families, after all, freedom of choice seems to be that which consumers utilize today in a free market society.
4) this mandate will create a definate hardship for low wage earning communities.

I do agree that we need to focus on solutions that contribute positively to our environment however, practical cost effective solutions must be developed that help accomplish the goal without harming the pocket books of Washington residents.
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Comment From: Ron Behrens

10/09/22 @ 1:52 PM
The EV mandate and gas engine ban are unrealistic and unfair, will cost billions to implement, and will unfairly penalize rural communities and working families.
MAYBE, a couple of decades from now after extreme research, a better solution can be foun...↓
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Comment From: DENNIS Deibert

10/09/22 @ 1:51 PM
This proposal is unfair to implement. as it will cause the middle class and poor high prices they can not afford. They are already raising prices on electricity and will cause a much higher raise in prices of electricity. The infrastructure already c...↓
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Comment From: Cheryl Black

10/09/22 @ 1:44 PM
Please reconsider the mandate banning gas-powered vehicles. We do not have the infrastructure in place to support additional electric vehicles. Also, they are so expensive that they would cripple the economy because most people could not afford the...↓
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Comment From: Mark Lampe

10/09/22 @ 1:39 PM
It's clear to myself and most other Washingtonians I have talked to that the regulations and policy changes are regressive and based on bogus politicized science and will lead to massive economic failure in this state. Hopefully you can re-think this...↓
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Comment From: David Hooyer

10/09/22 @ 1:38 PM
The EV mandate and gas engine ban are unrealistic and unfair, will cost billions to implement, and will unfairly penalize rural communities and working families.
MAYBE, a couple of decades from now after extreme research, a better solution can be foun...↓
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Comment From: Barbara Cox

10/09/22 @ 1:38 PM
I am very opposed to this proposal because it takes away our rights to make our own purchase decisions. It also disadvantages lower income families who may not be able to afford an EV.
EVs need to be a much more gradual change for consumers, not railr...↓
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Comment From: Claude Bennington

10/09/22 @ 1:26 PM
Where does electricity come from?
What sources of electricity are dependable?
Wind power and solar power are not sustainable and created in enough volume to supply the needs of the world.
The destruction of coal, oil and gasoline as sources of power for...↓
imposed by a misguided radical leftist liberal political agenda meant to turn the world into a totalitarian dystopian entity.
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Comment From: Pamela Anderson

10/09/22 @ 1:17 PM
Please do not follow the extreme California law mandating only electric vehicles be sold. Seriously consider all of the implications this extreme and ill thought out bill would mean for WA State residents. Especially for retired people who are on a f...↓
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Comment From: Deborah Taylor

10/09/22 @ 1:16 PM
I would like to comment on the upcoming decision you will make on "Rulemaking - Clean Vehicles Program and General Regulations for Air Pollution Sources". Putting additional tax against an already extremem pricing for gasoline will negatively effect ...↓
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Comment From: David Leavens

10/09/22 @ 1:12 PM
Requiring electric vehicles is only changing one environmental issue for one that is unproven as to the effects of mining the minerals and providing the electricity of which we don't have that capacity and won't in the near future with the closing of...↓
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Comment From: Lucy Bullock

10/09/22 @ 1:11 PM
While I can understand from a environmental stand point how this would be great for the environment. I do not feel that forcing this choice is appropriate at all. Simple speaking average Americans do not buy New Cars they buy used, and they also cant...↓
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Comment From: ARTHUR SNIDER

10/09/22 @ 1:11 PM
Frankly, I'm absolutely fed up with this "Green" BS which is and will continue to be a failure and do nothing but cause more problems than it solves. We, the people of Washington state, DO NOT want to follow the lead of California which is nothing bu...↓
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Comment From: Dezri Dean

10/09/22 @ 1:09 PM
Neither the electric vehicles nor the power grid are ready for this.
There are still major problems with electric vehicles, the fact that they are not less polluting than gasoline vehicles if measured from inception to end of life is included and then...↓
Just say NO until all of these problems are worked out.
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Comment From: Kimmarie Ryan

10/09/22 @ 1:08 PM
The ban on gas powered engines in the state of Washington is unfair and totally unrealistic. Look at Florida where they could not charge because of electricity being knocked out and the flood damaged engines exploded. I just bought my current car a...↓
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Comment From: Robert Butler

10/09/22 @ 1:07 PM
All electric vehicles is insanity in action. Freight and commerce can never be enhanced by electric vehicles. Semi's, trains and aircraft will never be efficient, fast or capable of delivery in the same fast efficient ways of fossil fuel powered tran...↓
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Comment From: James A. Thomas

10/09/22 @ 12:56 PM
0ppose Dept of Ecologys attempt to ban gas powered vehicles. Too costly for the majority of Washington residents and I do not believe their will be the infra.structure in place. Another wrong headed policy by progressive bureaucrats.
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Comment From: Jacqueline Rigtrup

10/09/22 @ 12:38 PM
Electric vehicles are still WAY too expensive for working families. It is unrealistic to expect all Washington families to be financially able to afford an electric vehicle.
Electric vehicles prevent families from taking road trips. Airlines and renta...↓
In addition, electric vehicles are charged with non-green sources, so the requirement to buy an electric vehicle doesn't actually help the environment.
The standard home is not equipped to be able to charge an electric vehicle. This electrical upgrade would be an additional cost families would be expected to afford.
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Comment From: Austin Beauchamp

10/09/22 @ 12:36 PM
Hello Department of Ecology. It seems to me that you forget we are a state that represents both city and rural life but you clearly only pay attention to the city folk. As a person from a rural past I am frustrated with what I'm hearing. EVs require ...↓
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Comment From: Richard Shores

10/09/22 @ 12:31 PM
I have to add my comment about eliminating all gaspowered cars. There is no way I can afford a all electric car. Someway, somehow there needs to be some kind of financial help
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Comment From: Jay Palmer

10/09/22 @ 11:35 AM
Short sighted decisions lacking total cost analysis or valid short long term logic.
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Comment From: Brian Anonymous

10/09/22 @ 10:30 AM
The EV mandate and gas engine ban are unrealistic and unfair, will cost billions to implement and will unfairly penalize rural communities and working families.

EVs are still too costly and don't work for most families. Washington residents should be ...↓
The average EV costs $66,000.
This mandate will cost consumers and businesses BILLIONS.
Creating the charging infrastructure to support this mandate will be expensive and could take years.
The cost of electric grid upgrades needed for new EV charging loads, are unknown and could be in the BILLIONS
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Comment From: DAID HAYES

10/09/22 @ 10:30 AM
This proposal is short-sighted, and far too all-encompassing. Let's back off and implement gradually (perhaps 2% per year) so that unforeseen problems have a chance to be eliminated before they become major critical problems. No one can foretell th...↓

As written, this is far too expensive for both the consumer and the government, and not practical in the short term. It will most likely cost both parties billions, and due to be implemented during the greatest recession in decades. The additional cost of EV's for the consumer make them impractical for many, and the cost to government to implement and monitor is prohibitive. The cost of ensuring enough "refueling" stations alone could cost billions that we don't have and will be passed on to consumers by either cost of recharging or through additional taxation. We can't afford this at this time of economic recession. The number of jobs created does not justify the cost.

One of the problems this plan will cause is battery disposal. What happens to the billions of batteries that are no longer serviceable? They are highly toxic. Bury them in landfills? Dump then in the ocean? Currently it costs approximately ten times as much to recycle Li batteries than it costs to produce a new one. This problem needs to be solved before implementation. Will we end up sacrificing our water quality in the quest for cleaner air?

I repeat, let's slow down, implement gradually, and get it right.
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Comment From: John Zimmaro

10/09/22 @ 9:26 AM
In the end the E-veh. will harm the eco system more then we will no. As for the wind turbines the blades are only good for 10yrs. and are not bio-degradable so they bury them to be dug up later.
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Comment From: Eric Wallin

10/09/22 @ 9:17 AM
If electric vehicles are such are a great deal, why do we have to coerce people to buy them? This new law is a nonsensical virtue signaling destruction of the US economy. 61% of US electric power is derived from fossil fuels. The self-righteous EV ...↓
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Comment From: James Brady

10/09/22 @ 9:08 AM
The proposed new rule restrictions are unreal and should be rewritten. Inflation is already out of hand and this new requirement will add to it.
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Comment From: tim parker

10/09/22 @ 8:56 AM
I believe that there is no need for a Washing ton law mandating for only electric vehicles to be sold. It will happen naturally due to economics. Our energy grid is not developed enough to handle the load now, but it will happen naturally. Please res...↓
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Comment From: Anonymous Anonymous

10/09/22 @ 8:42 AM
Once again, the powers that be have their heads in the sand, you want to ban gas powered vehicles so you look good on preventing green house gases, that is fine but think about what you are doing first. Unfortunately, you do need fossil fuels, sad bu...↓
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Comment From: Robert Kellum

10/09/22 @ 8:24 AM
There are numerous serious problems with the proposed elimination of gas powered fossil fuel powered automobiles.
1. Converting everyone to electric vehicles there's no way our power grid can support that and charge that many vehicles.
2. To produce th...↓
3. Lithium batteries are already proven themselves to be unreliable overheating starting fires improving themselves not to be a safe or good storage for electricity.
4. Electric vehicles are far too expensive to buy and to maintain (like having to replace batteries every 5 to 10 years) for the majority of the population.
5. It is frankly impossible to conceive that our country will have enough electric charging station infrastructure by 2035 to actually support all electric vehicles driving cross-country distances.
6. You politicians continue to come across with "feel good" proposals that make no sense there that have no real true plan behind them as to how to accomplish.
Please consider all of the consequences of the laws you make and make truly achievable goals and plans behind your proposals
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Comment From: GARY KUSEL

10/09/22 @ 8:24 AM
Who has the right to make a rule to tell me what to spend my money on what kind of vehicle i purchase certainly not a (politician) we already have to many of those making decisions maybe (politicians)need to clean up their own house not try to manda...↓
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Comment From: Anon Ymous

10/09/22 @ 7:34 AM
No for this bullshit. Scraping by as it is. Unaffordable !! Going to bring poverty line up. Zero infrastructure.
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Comment From: Eric Holm

10/09/22 @ 7:24 AM
I don't understand how you think people are going to afford these vehicles. I know I can't.
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Comment From: Arthur Berkell

10/09/22 @ 7:14 AM
Despite the "feel good" nature of electric vehicles, they are an environmental disaster. And despite the fact that they don't use fossil fuels per se, the inescapable fact is that fossil fuels create the electricity on which electric vehicles run. ...↓
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Comment From: David Hutsell

10/09/22 @ 7:03 AM
Tell Ecology the EV mandate and gas engine ban are unrealistic and unfair, will cost billions to implement and will unfairly penalize rural communities and working families.

EVs are still too costly and don't work for most families. Washington residen...↓
• The average EV costs $66,000.1 This mandate will cost consumers and businesses BILLIONS.
• Creating the charging infrastructure to support this mandate will be expensive and could take years.
• The cost of electric grid upgrades needed for new EV charging loads, are unknown and could be in the BILLIONS.
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Comment From: Duane DePoe

10/09/22 @ 6:56 AM
This is no good and violates my right to choose what vehicle I want / how I spend my hard earned money!!!!!!! My wife and I already did our part for the planet when we bought a new Honda CRV with very low emissions!
Now is not the time for out of thei...↓
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Comment From: Thomas Valdez

10/09/22 @ 6:45 AM
I believe that the State of Washington is misled to believe that electric vehicles are the answer. It is not. Our power grid will not support the demand for electricity. The time frame that is supposed to be imposed will not be complete. Also the...↓
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Comment From: Joshua Gonzalez

10/09/22 @ 6:34 AM
1. An Electric vehicle will not have the range or towing capacity nessessary to tow my travel trailer for work. If I cannot work, the state loses revenue.
2. A better choice of electric vehicles may add to some more folks buying them, but mandating is...↓
3. As we have seen throughout history, just because California does it doesn't mean that it is legal, correct, or feasable.
There is a reason people are moving to states like Washington from California. We have a beautiful state with some common sense still intact. Let's keep it that way.
Please do not follow California off of a cliff!
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Comment From: tyler severy

10/09/22 @ 6:22 AM
I only wish the comments matter! You guys don't ask or listen, you parade your grandstand ideas around like they are the only solution. Our grid can't support this mess, with inflation at a record high how on earth do you think you can pay for this?...↓
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Comment From: Garrett Pagon

10/09/22 @ 6:18 AM
There should be no mandates. Individuals should be free to make their own choices. This is an authoritarian overreach by the government.
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Comment From: Douglas O'Donnell

10/09/22 @ 6:17 AM
We all care about the planet, but this proposal is misthought. The technology and infrastructure are not even close to ready. If every electric or hybrid vehicle were purchased, it would take close to 100 years to replace petroleum powered vehicles! ...↓

In addition, there is no battery powered vehicle that could take the place of the many trucks that haul the goods that fuel our economy.

We can all do our part to clean up the environment but use common sense when it comes to rule making!
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